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Sietch
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Post subject: Hey, IT guys Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 3:59 pm |
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Following a piece of humble pie, I've determined that I really only scratch the surface in understanding computer security. I'm unhappy about this and want to get it right. Can you point me towards square one?
Which book(s) should I look into? Any websites? I'm a pretty quick study. If you were me and wanted to get more savvy, where would you start?
_________________ "My name is Shosanna Dreyfus. This is the face of Jewish vengeance."
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jdege
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Post subject: Re: Hey, IT guys Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 4:05 pm |
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Sietch wrote: Following a piece of humble pie, I've determined that I really only scratch the surface in understanding computer security. I'm unhappy about this and want to get it right. Can you point me towards square one?
Which book(s) should I look into? Any websites? I'm a pretty quick study. If you were me and wanted to get more savvy, where would you start?
Bruce Schneier is a great source for sensible comuter security info.
Just ignore anything he has to say about guns.
http://www.schneier.com/blog/
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joelr
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Post subject: Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 4:08 pm |
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Yup. I'd go a bit farther and say that when he ventures outside of computer security, he's hit-and-miss, except when he talks about guns and any security issue where the g-word comes up at all . . . where he's pretty much all miss.
_________________ Just a guy.
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DeanC
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Post subject: Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 4:13 pm |
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What do you want to secure? Your home network? Your small business? Your massive corporate enterprise?
_________________ I am defending myself... in favor of that!
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joelr
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Post subject: Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 4:15 pm |
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I could be wrong, but I think he wants to know what the issues are, in general.
_________________ Just a guy.
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Sietch
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Post subject: Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 5:53 pm |
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Yep. Pretty much the home, which is largely business. Two systems and an XBOX play together on the network.
_________________ "My name is Shosanna Dreyfus. This is the face of Jewish vengeance."
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DeanC
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Post subject: Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 9:39 pm |
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Who is your ISP?
What modem are you using?
Are you using a separate wireless router?
_________________ I am defending myself... in favor of that!
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Dee
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Post subject: Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 9:52 pm |
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Look into a firewall appliance. Most manufacturers make small hardware devices that perform multiple functions like Virus checking, Spam checking and Intrusion protection. If you're operating a business, it should be a must. An appliance like that would go between your network and the Internet, preventing unauthorized access to your system from the outside.
One example would be this Watchguard device:
http://www.watchguard.com/products/edge-e.asp
Here is a random listing of firewall applicances on Pricegrabber to give you some idea of pricing:
http://computers.pricegrabber.com/firew ... es/p/2047/
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SultanOfBrunei
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Post subject: Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 7:45 am |
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If you really want to play around, and have some exp with *nix you could check out Untangle. It is a replacement for powerful firewalls that will do all of the following for free: Quote: Web Filter Virus Blocker Spam Blocker Ad Blocker Attack Blocker Phish Blocker Spyware Blocker Firewall Routing & QoS Intrusion Prevention Protocol Control OpenVPN Reports They also have some pay add-ons, but probably nothing you need for home use.
You can run it on a stand alone server, or as a program on your XP machine.
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mrokern
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Post subject: Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 8:36 am |
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Really depends on how much coin you want to drop on it. If it's for business, Cisco makes a sub-$1000 ASA appliance that I tend to spec a lot for small installations.
Watchguard makes a solid product as well, I just can't stand their management when compared to Cisco...
Still, neither is exactly for amateurs.
-Mark
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Carbide Insert
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 9:38 am |
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REAL Computer Security
_________________ It's not always easy these days to tell which of our two major political parties is the Stupid Party and which is the Evil Party...
But it remains true that from time to time they collaborate on something that's both stupid and evil and call it bipartisanship. -Thomas E. Woods Jr.
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Dave Pendleton
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 8:51 pm |
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Carbide Insert wrote: REAL Computer Security
Yeah. The nineties called while you were reading Bruce Schneier, and asked that you might return their keyboard and monitor.
IMO, recommending that someone read Bruce Schneier to implement personal computer security is ridiculous.
I read Bruce regularly. In my experience, he isn't really directing his expertise towards the average desktop...
Steve Gibson is a much better (and infinitely more talented) resource for that.
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Carbide Insert
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 11:07 am |
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Joined: Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:36 am Posts: 760 Location: Hutchinson, MN
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Um, I have no idea what you're talking about, aside from the nineties ball mouse and CRT monitor.
I just did a quick search for photos of computers and guns.
_________________ It's not always easy these days to tell which of our two major political parties is the Stupid Party and which is the Evil Party...
But it remains true that from time to time they collaborate on something that's both stupid and evil and call it bipartisanship. -Thomas E. Woods Jr.
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