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Selurcspi
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:56 pm |
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Pinnacle wrote: Wow imagine that load in an unsupported chamber - can you say BLOW OUT. man that is FAST for a pistol... it is interesting that out of a G17 the Winchester RA9TA goes 1350fps FACTORY - now that is fast with a 127gr bullet - I am wondering if that makes Major as I do not know that much about IPSC and the power factor limits and seem to be unmotivated to look it up. That would make an itneresting option if it were to make Major.....
It will make the new major [edit(160 open)(170 Mod & Standard)] but not the old (175) as it comes in at 171 and change.
Radway Greene (Brit Army) 9mm makes 175 major in a 4 1/2" BHP. Before major 9 was banned in IPSC a number of Brit shooters used it in glocks and CZ75s. It worked the comp well and when the guns were correctly sprung there were few problems.
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Last edited by Selurcspi on Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:01 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Pinnacle
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:53 pm |
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So what you are telling me is that if I were to go to an IPSC deal with my G17 and a bunch of that ammo - I would be placed in major category? That would be fun....
I will tell you that when you do shoot that ammunition - it is a handful of 9mm - turns a 9mm into a real package of power.
You should see that bullet tear through material - Scary...
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Selurcspi
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:03 pm |
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Pinnacle wrote: So what you are telling me is that if I were to go to an IPSC deal with my G17 and a bunch of that ammo - I would be placed in major category? That would be fun....
I will tell you that when you do shoot that ammunition - it is a handful of 9mm - turns a 9mm into a real package of power.
You should see that bullet tear through material - Scary...
You could enter Open, Modified & Standard with that combo, but be sure you consistantly make major in all kinds of conditions (hot & cold temps)
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someone1980
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:04 pm |
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Pinnacle wrote: So what you are telling me is that if I were to go to an IPSC deal with my G17 and a bunch of that ammo - I would be placed in major category? That would be fun....
I will tell you that when you do shoot that ammunition - it is a handful of 9mm - turns a 9mm into a real package of power.
You should see that bullet tear through material - Scary... Except for Quote: Before major 9 was banned in IPSC
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Selurcspi
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:05 pm |
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someone1980 wrote: Pinnacle wrote: So what you are telling me is that if I were to go to an IPSC deal with my G17 and a bunch of that ammo - I would be placed in major category? That would be fun....
I will tell you that when you do shoot that ammunition - it is a handful of 9mm - turns a 9mm into a real package of power.
You should see that bullet tear through material - Scary... Except for Quote: Before major 9 was banned in IPSC
Major 9 is back in IPSC, they dropped the power floor.
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Seismic Sam
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Post subject: Thanks! Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:14 pm |
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For the 38 Super stats - I haven't made the plunge yet, but if I do I will be an EAA Stock, and these guns have barrels that are 3/4" diameter at the muzzle. Lotsa high tensile steel in the barrels of these guns.
BTW - I have worked an EAA Witness up to 45 Super, and it puts a Hornady 185 grain XTP out the front at 1250 FPS. Over on czforum.com there is somebody who has gotten a 45-08 (.308 case trimmed and reamed to make super strong 45 ACP brass) round to put a 45 caliber 200 grain SWC out the front at 1350 FPS.
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DeanC
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:49 am |
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I don't begrudge people fooling around and tricking out their guns to do wicked cool things. That's where we get nifty ideas. I just wish they'd stop calling it "Practical".
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someone1980
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 12:04 pm |
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Wow what a sweet gun. Everyone who shot it turned around and had a big smile on their face.
I think I would like to show up to an IPSC match sometime and watch people seriously operation them.
Thank you Selurcspi!
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mo_the_mouse
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 3:29 pm |
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Told ya!
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glock+ipod
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 9:55 pm |
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Selurcspi, that was a blast. <-- (My expression after 5, or maybe 6, rounds.)
Thanks.
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mmcnx2
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Post subject: EAA Capacity Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 10:36 am |
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If you're interest in EAA, they are very cool, however please look at the potential magazine capacity. In a 2011 style it is not uncommon to get 27-29 rounds with long tubes and extended bases and still remain in the lenght requirement. I'm not sure but I do not think extended tubes and bases are available in the US for the EAA quite yet. I also looked at these about a year ago and honestly they are very interesting but not certainly the exception verese the rule in terms of populrity at the matches.
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cdl
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 9:26 pm |
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OK, I send my dues to USPSA/IPSC in hopes that they do something useful with it and they send me a pretty magazine in hopes that I read it. I can’t say I’m really doing my part, but did we get sucked out of the US rules and into the international rules or is it just a matter of who you know and where you go. Have I been unknowingly internationalized? Should I worry? Is there a cure?
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A Brit in MN
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:28 am |
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Selurcspi
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:31 am |
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