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| Author: | Pinnacle [ Fri Oct 06, 2006 8:27 am ] |
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DeanC wrote: That chart is missing the data on the 10mm. That would be about 40 smith (with comperabel bullet weight ) + about 12% in energy as an ESTIMATE. 10mm is a wickedly powerful auto caliber.... |
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| Author: | DeanC [ Fri Oct 06, 2006 8:31 am ] |
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I know - I'm just trolling. My neighbor has an ANIB, never fired S&W auto in 10mm so I've been investigating the balistics. He has some really hot factory loads he bought when the gun came out. Most factory 10mm loads now are under 500ft/lbs, but you can still find some that are close to 600ft/lbs. |
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| Author: | KonaSeven [ Fri Oct 06, 2006 8:35 am ] |
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The ballistics chart shown is somewhat misleading. What grain bullets and to what loading are we looking at? Example: Hornady TAP Personal defense ammo ballistics for their highest loading. Muzzle Velocity/Energy 9mm 124gr 1100/339 .40S&W 155gr 1180/479 .45ACP +p 200gr 1055/494 So how does this fit into the "Big and Slow vs. Small and Fast" debate? Which I never understood. Why not big and fast? Felt recoil is largely dissipated with heavier guns. My wife has a 9mm Beretta PX4 she can shoot very well for about 15 rounds. Then her hand and wrist gets fatigued from the sharp snap of the lightweight gun. But shooting our all steel Smith & Wesson 686 in .357 she never feels the same harshness. And she puts my XD 45ACP Tactical somewhere in between. That said, neither of us would would pick the 686 for our carry gun for an extended duration. |
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| Author: | macphisto [ Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:54 am ] |
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It bothers me that every gun discussion seems to degenerate into a caliber debate. You do realize there's an entire sub-forum for this, right guys? I called Springfield today and it sounds like I'm going to have a hell of a time getting my hands on an XD9SC Bi-tone. 
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| Author: | grayskys [ Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:12 am ] |
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Just checked the gun locater... It looks pretty dismal... Gun Search unless you want a XD9101HCSP06, and Mark Koscielski has them for $489 after taxes. Could I interest you in a Glock? 
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| Author: | macphisto [ Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:38 am ] |
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I'm pretty much settled on the sub-compact. I may just get the black one with 10rd mags and buy the 16rd extension separately. If it weren't for XDs, I would probably be in the market for a G26, but Glocks just don't fit my hand like the XDs...sight alignment is dead-on. |
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| Author: | grayskys [ Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:13 am ] |
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I understand I prefer the Glocks textured blueing, the XD seem to have a rep for corrosion. (hey I have seen a few corroded, and read a lot reviews on them before I bought my Glock [Flame Suit On!]) You are right on the point issue, the XDs have the same grip angle as a 1911 and they point very we, my Glock points a bit high. If it was me I would wait and get what I wanted, carry the colt till then. 
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| Author: | macphisto [ Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:49 am ] |
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The new Melonite finish (similar to Tenifer on Glocks) is supposed to address the corrosion issue on XDs. grayskys wrote: If it was me I would wait and get what I wanted, carry the colt till then. Haha, know where I can get a good cowboy hat and boots? That's good advice, but I've got six boxes of 9mm burning a hole in my pocket, so to speak.
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| Author: | Ramoel [ Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:53 am ] |
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My understanding is all new XD's now have the Melonite finish that first came out with the XD45. Check the Springfield website, says it on the first page. I believe it started in April, 2006. Melonite is exactly the same process as the Tennifer that Glock uses. No more corrosion problems with the black models. |
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| Author: | grayskys [ Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:58 am ] |
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macphisto wrote: The new Melonite finish (similar to Tenifer on Glocks) is supposed to address the corrosion issue on XDs. Cool, glad to hear it, If you can get the textured finish I think it would be better than the the duo tone. For me the dou tone is very slippery when my fingers get sweaty or wet. macphisto wrote: grayskys wrote: If it was me I would wait and get what I wanted, carry the colt till then. Haha, know where I can get a good cowboy hat and boots? Yes I do, several places, if you are really serious PM me, and yes I have a very nice cowboy hat.  macphisto wrote: That's good advice, but I've got six boxes of 9mm burning a hole in my pocket, so to speak. I have 3000+ rounds of 9mm, whats your point? PS: Stocking up when it is on sale is a good thing. 
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| Author: | macphisto [ Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:23 am ] |
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grayskys wrote: macphisto wrote: That's good advice, but I've got six boxes of 9mm burning a hole in my pocket, so to speak. I have 3000+ rounds of 9mm, whats your point? My point is I have to stare at the poor things sitting on the shelf and I have no way to use them aside from hitting 'em with a hammer! |
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| Author: | Pinnacle [ Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:25 am ] |
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Get a blued gun - strip the upper and have a Teflon Nickel Finish put on it. It turns out a dull gray... Self lubricating and well bombproof. |
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| Author: | macphisto [ Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:27 am ] |
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Thanks for the tip, Pinner. Who does that around here and about how much does it cost? |
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| Author: | grayskys [ Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:32 am ] |
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macphisto wrote: grayskys wrote: macphisto wrote: That's good advice, but I've got six boxes of 9mm burning a hole in my pocket, so to speak. I have 3000+ rounds of 9mm, whats your point? My point is I have to stare at the poor things sitting on the shelf and I have no way to use them aside from hitting 'em with a hammer! Well there was this one guy that set them (well one) off by biting the round. 
Waiting is the hardest part, for me day 29 and the wait till 3:30 the next day when the mail man (really is a guy) came so I could get my permit seemed to take a year! Maybe you could rent a gun? |
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| Author: | Pinnacle [ Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:36 am ] |
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It is about $100.00 - $120.00 (you eat the MINIMUM plating Charge.) YOU have to strip the upper - it would be recommended that you DO NOT buy a gun with Night Sights from the factory and buy new sights after the process is done. Sometimes the sight tennons are SO TIGHT on the XD's that the old sights have to be milled off. This is a custom shop option at this time from Springfield. |
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