| Twin Cities Carry Forum Archive http://www.ellegon.com/forum/ |
|
| Carrying Guns Soon To Be Legal In National Parks http://www.ellegon.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=8698 |
Page 1 of 1 |
| Author: | Magnum Mikie [ Wed May 07, 2008 7:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Carrying Guns Soon To Be Legal In National Parks |
-- But your help is needed to make sure the right is permanently recognized Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert 8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151 Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408 http://www.gunowners.org Tuesday, May 6, 2008 The Bush administration, after more than seven years, has finally issued regulations permitting the carrying of firearms in national parks. Gun owners will soon be able to carry firearms according to the laws of the state in which the park is located. While not perfect, the proposed regulations, which are likely to take effect at the end of June 2008, represent a sharp contrast with the steadfast refusal to allow for self-defense in national parks. The bureaucrats responded after a crescendo of congressional activity. Senator Tom Coburn has made efforts to put the matter before the Senate, and would have done so had Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid not broken his word to Coburn to allow him to have a vote on the measure. Also, 47 Senators signed a letter to the Department of the Interior urging that the ban be removed. In the House, there are now three bills that would open national parks to carrying firearms as regulated by the state in which the park is located. The most recent bill, and the most comprehensive, is that of GOA Life Member Paul Broun (R-GA), who was elected to Congress in July of last year. Rep. Broun has introduced HR 5646, the "Protecting the Second Amendment and Hunting Rights on Federal Lands Act of 2008." This is not the time to slack off on our efforts. If congressional activity got the Park Service bureaucrats to finally move, we need to keep the heat on. We need to make sure they follow through. Moreover, legislation is the more sure way of keeping concealed carry "on the books." Regulations could be changed the first day an anti-gun president takes office. Finally, Rep. Broun's legislation would go even further than the proposed National Parks regulations. As we mentioned above, they are not perfect. Among other things, it's not clear (in the proposed regs) whether or not an individual will be able to engage in open carry on national park lands for the purpose of self-defense. That would not even be questioned under the Broun bill. So with all this in mind, we urge you to send an email to your representative urging him to cosponsor Rep. Broun's bill, HR 5646. ACTION: Please urge your Representative to cosponsor HR 5646. You can visit the Gun Owners Legislative Action Center at http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm to send your Representative the pre-written e-mail message below. And, you can call your Representative at 202-225-3121 or toll-free at 1-877-762-8762. ----- Pre-written letter ----- Dear Representative: I urge you to cosponsor Rep. Paul Broun's bill, H.R. 5646, which protects the Second Amendment rights of individuals to carry firearms and ammunition in units of the National Park System and the National Wildlife Refuge System. It also requires that hunting activities be a land use in all management plans for Federal land to the extent that such use is not clearly incompatible with the purposes for which the Federal land is managed. Now that the Park Service has finally recognized that this is a good idea, there is no reason not to enact this into federal law so that the next president could not once again make it illegal to protect oneself with a gun in a national park. Please let me know when you have cosponsored Rep. Broun's bill. Gun Owners of America will be keeping me posted. Sincerely, |
|
| Author: | havegunjoe [ Wed May 07, 2008 9:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | |
Done! |
|
| Author: | 12smile [ Wed May 07, 2008 1:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | |
How did Senatress Amy vote? didn't see her name here...this should be mentioned next time there's a crazyman shooting. Obviously against empowerment of women... Senator Mike Crapo Senator Max Baucus Senator Larry Craig Senator Tim Johnson Senator Jim Inhofe Senator Jon Tester Senator David Vitter Senator Mark Pryor Senator Gordon Smith Senator Blanche Lincoln Senator Orrin Hatch Senator Byron Dorgan Senator Norm Coleman Senator Ben Nelson Senator Tom Coburn Senator Jim Webb Senator Judd Gregg Senator Lisa Murkowski Senator John Ensign Senator John Sununu Senator Ted Stevens Senator Robert Bennett Senator Saxby Chambliss Senator Thad Cochran Senator Johnny Isakson Senator John Bunning Senator Wayne Allard Senator John Thune Senator Chuck Grassley Senator Bob Corker Senator Trent Lott Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison Senator Pat Roberts Senator Mel Martinez Senator John Cornyn Senator Richard Shelby Senator Chuck Hagel Senator Lindsey Graham Senator Elizabeth Dole Senator Mike Enzi Senator John McCain Senator John Barrasso Senator Sam Brownback Senator Pete Domenici Senitor Jim DeMint Senator Jeff Sessions Senator Jon Kyl |
|
| Author: | jdege [ Wed May 07, 2008 1:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | |
Truthfully, I'm not thrilled with this. The idea was to make carry on National Park land subject to the same rules as the National Forests - which are subject to state law. If you're legal to carry in the state, you're legal to carry in the National Forests, and would have been legal to carry in the National Parks. Instead, the NPS came up with this "equivalent state lands" language. Imposing on the National Parks whatever rule the state imposes on its State Parks, or whatever other state lands that some bureaucrat decides are "equivalent". I don't know if I'd call this a step side-ways, but it's certainly a step at an angle to progress forward. |
|
| Author: | Dave Pendleton [ Sun May 11, 2008 7:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | |
The new rules will not take effect until after a period of public comment. No doubt the anti's will make good use of this opportunity to oppose the new rules. Please visit the following web site to submit your comments. http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/component/main?main=SubmitComment&o=090000648053d497 |
|
| Author: | Dave Pendleton [ Sun May 11, 2008 7:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Talking points to support Right-to-Carry in National Parks |
Points to consider when submitting your comments: 1. Rules on carrying and transporting firearms should be consistent—across the board—with the laws of the state that includes the national park or wildlife refuge. 2. Law-abiding citizens should not be prohibited from protecting themselves and their families while enjoying America's national parks and wildlife refuges. 3. The new rules should provide uniformity across all federal lands, eliminating the patchwork of laws that create confusion for gun owners. 4. Current regulations fail to account for the significant change in state laws since 1984. 48 states now have laws that permit laws that permit carrying and 40 have strong Right-to-Carry laws. Federal regulations should recognize the change in state laws and follow their lead. 5. The new regulations should restore the rights of law-abiding gun owners who wish to transport and carry firearms for all lawful purposes on most DOI lands, just as they do now on Forest Service and Bureau of Land Management lands. |
|
| Author: | joelr [ Sun May 11, 2008 7:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | |
Yup, to all of that. |
|
| Author: | Long Ago LEO [ Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | |
So... has the "period of public comment" expired and the new NPS rules taken effect yet? |
|
| Author: | kimberman [ Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | |
They had better HURRY. The "ONE" opposes licensed concealed carry in National Parks. McCain, Obama Differ on National-Park Carry: ... When asked about whether a general ban on carrying loaded guns in national parks should be eliminated, the answers were sharply different and somewhat predictable. McCain, who is against gun control, stated: "I believe the National Park Service and the Fish and Wildlife Service should remove their prohibitions against law-abiding citizens transporting and carrying firearms to lands managed by those agencies." Obama, who is against assault weapons and a gun show loophole that allows trading of weapons between private individuals, stated: "I believe in Second Amendment rights and the rights of hunters and sportsmen to bear arms and use them in a responsible way. But I am concerned about allowing loaded firearms into family-oriented spaces...[which is just about everywhere]." http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/outpost ... n-b-1.html Related Commentary: http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/6158 |
|
| Author: | Long Ago LEO [ Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | |
DAMN! Mighta' known. (Thanks for the update, though.) |
|
| Page 1 of 1 | All times are UTC - 6 hours |
| Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group http://www.phpbb.com/ |
|