Obama's State Department considers BAN on common ammo
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kimberman
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Post subject: Obama's State Department considers BAN on common ammo Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:16 am |
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State Department Floating Ammo Import Ban?
Quote: It looks like those who said the Obama Administration would strike while the iron is hot may have been correct, and the Administration may be doing it in a way that does not require them to even get a vote in Congress. In this morning's edition of the Shooting Wire, Jim Shepherd writes that Canadian officials have it on "good authority" our State Department may be on the verge of cutting off all imports of certain calibers of ammunition.
Ammo listed for this rumored ban include the .50BMG, 7.62x39mm Soviet, 7.62x51mm NATO, .308 Winchester, 5.56 NATO and .223 Remington. Additionally, we're hearing that an expansion of this proposed ban might be broadened to include the 6.8mm SPC, 9mm Parabellum, .40 S&W, and .45 ACP- among others.
In other words, State Department officials may be floating a trial balloon to see if there are howls of protest, or whimpers of compliance. Canadian elected officials who have directed this information to me say the move seems to be motivated by "emboldened" anti-gun officials who think they have a kindred spirit in President Obama.
Shepherd continues that there may also be a plan to ban exports on certain firearms to Canada from the US, resulting in the State Department hammering gun manufacturers, distributors and exporters in the United States while simultaneously making firearms -and ammunition - ownership and acquisition more difficult for Canadians.
Many in the pro-rights community have said since the election that Obama could circumvent Congress by using regulations in his various cabinet departments to attack gun owners. It appears that it may have already begun.
From the Virginia State Shooting Association
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mnglocker
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:37 am |
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Can we throw them out of office yet?
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Sietch
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:20 am |
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I regularly trade words with a few folks that who worked for Federal ammo for several decades, and who I consider to be pretty sharp.
I tell them about my fears and they giggle. They'll concede that this is the biggest buying surge that they can remember, but are quick to point out to me that an uptick of some degree does happen every four years around elections.
But, I don't know. There's a scary thing approaching.
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sigman
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:38 am |
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The bad news keeps coming.
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zimme71
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:17 pm |
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Personally, I think with this administration and congress....we're screwed folks. Might as well bend over and grab your ankles!
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mnglocker
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:22 pm |
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zimme71 wrote: Personally, I think with this administration and congress....we're screwed folks. Might as well bend over and grab your ankles!
I'd rather not. In fact I down right fucking refuse. The line in the sand has been drawn, there's a whole nation of pissed off people.
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mnmike59
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:08 pm |
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mnglocker wrote: zimme71 wrote: Personally, I think with this administration and congress....we're screwed folks. Might as well bend over and grab your ankles! I'd rather not. In fact I down right fucking refuse. The line in the sand has been drawn, there's a whole nation of pissed off people.
I'm standing right with you brother!!
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Ramoel
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:19 pm |
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Q_Continuum
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:08 am |
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NO.
Someone else needs to pick that gun up, and use it again.
It doesn't look 'useless' to me.
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TopGlock
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:49 am |
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Despite his campaign promises: "I believe in the Second Amendment. I believe in people's lawful right to bear arms. I will not take your shotgun away. I will not take your rifle away. I won't take your handgun away. ... There are some common-sense gun safety laws that I believe in. But I am not going to take your guns away. .", it comes as no surprise that President Obama is now asking congress to renew the 1994 Federal "assault weapons" and "high capacity" magazine ban.
He does not need to take our guns, no ammo and the guns become clubs
With the fear/crisis of drug wars in Mexico spilling across our borders, the government will use it to push all the juicy second amendment destroying bans that they can.
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Scott Hughes
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:07 pm |
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If there is a lot of smuggling of guns from the US to Mexico (I don't believe for a second there is), and given that it is a fact that most of the drugs entering this country come through Mexico, then it shouldn't be a stretch at all to think that massive amounts of ammo could be smuggled into the US from Mexico and elsewhere.
This is simply a continuation of a grab for power over the citizenry.
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realtor_packing_heat
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Post subject: Mexico Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:20 pm |
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Maybe Mexico should invest in a border fence to stop the flow of guns into Mexico from the US
Sounds like a win win to me
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mnglocker
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Post subject: Re: Mexico Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:06 pm |
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realtor_packing_heat wrote: Maybe Mexico should invest in a border fence to stop the flow of guns into Mexico from the US Sounds like a win win to me
I like the way you think.
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PocketProtector642
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Post subject: Re: Mexico Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:45 pm |
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mnglocker wrote: realtor_packing_heat wrote: Maybe Mexico should invest in a border fence to stop the flow of guns into Mexico from the US Sounds like a win win to me I like the way you think.
yes, me too!
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1911fan
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:46 pm |
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