A fairly mild one, but local
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joelr
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Post subject: A fairly mild one, but local Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:56 am |
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Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2005 5:43 am Posts: 7970 Location: Minneapolis MN
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Right here.
Quote: This incident might have been just a footnote in the long chronicle of unfriendly interactions between the MPD and the city's black residents, but in this instance, the cops picked on the wrong family. James Cannon is a 56-year-old judge with the Office of Administrative Hearings and a retired Army lieutenant colonel. He also spent a decade serving on the city's Civil Rights Commission. His wife is a registered nurse and midwife. Their son is a student at the University of Minnesota.
Fortunately for the woman who announced that she was going to make a complaint, her husband -- the judge -- was standing right next to her.
Hmm... I wonder if, should the cops, Officers Casper and Meith, involved in this fib about their own behavior in this isolated incident, if they appear in front of that judge or his brother/sister judges, they should recuse themselves.
Another good piece by Demko, of course.
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Tex
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:19 am |
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Joined: Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:13 pm Posts: 282 Location: east central mn
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from the article:
Quote: "I guess more than two black people constitutes a crowd,"
Must be going back to the 1800's and the Indian Treaties. More than two constitutes a 'war-party' and can be shot on sight.
Sad, sad situation.
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1911fan
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:41 am |
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Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2005 10:18 pm Posts: 1689 Location: 35 W and Hiway 10
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Again I will say, the only way to get it thru these officer's heads is if the cost of the payouts comes from their retirement fund and their operating budget for the precinct. The good cops will toss out the bad ones when they start finding they will get no raises or retirement because of morons like these too.
His Honor the Judge does workmans comp hearings and he's supposed to be a stand up guy from my quick research.
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Sipowicz
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:12 pm |
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Joined: Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:04 am Posts: 337 Location: FarmLakeMount
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Good for them. I don't really know how to say this without saying too much, but the best I can come up with is a lot of people would be really surprised as to the goings on in the MPD. Those that are aware of my position understand my issue with being more forthcoming.
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Dick Unger
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:48 pm |
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Joined: Sun Aug 28, 2005 2:54 am Posts: 2444 Location: West Central MN
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You'd have to wonder about the training officers receive.
People have a right to reclaim their cars, and it's not happening. Wouldn't the officer first pressure the impound people to get moving? Call the boss and tell them of the problem?
I'd bet that if the officers were waiting for a refund at a store, or their paycheck were late, or somebody's truck blocked their car in for over an hour, and they were told to just Shut Up and Sit Down and wait, they'd scream bloody murder, and threaten to arrest somebody.
The problem was obviously not the people, it was the impound lot.
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Scott Hughes
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:20 pm |
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1911fan wrote: Again I will say, the only way to get it thru these officer's heads is if the cost of the payouts comes from their retirement fund and their operating budget for the precinct. The good cops will toss out the bad ones when they start finding they will get no raises or retirement because of morons like these too.
Heck of a thought, I like it
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Sipowicz
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:56 pm |
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Joined: Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:04 am Posts: 337 Location: FarmLakeMount
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Dick Unger wrote: You'd have to wonder about the training officers receive.
Well, that's part of it, but not the whole. I've gone through the POST Skills requirements and I am still POST eligible to be a cop. They get some pretty damn good practical and theoretical training in Skills.
The issue is, IMHO, primarily on the MPD, all the way up through the ranks, starting with the rookies, and likely actually starting with the CSOs and the Meter Maids. Even with my training, morals, and values, I could see the temptation were I to get hired by MPD as a cop to follow suit of how the cops are now.
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Dick Unger
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:48 pm |
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Joined: Sun Aug 28, 2005 2:54 am Posts: 2444 Location: West Central MN
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Well, the police were called to settle things down. The impound lot was stiring up trouble by not getting the cars out in a reasonable time. The longer it goes the more people show and the worse it gets.
The cops seemed to grasp that tapping on the glass was not right but not that keeping peoples cars after they showed up to redeem them was improper.
Instead, police just automatically supported the impound lot, and threatened the people.
I think they should have told the impound clerk to call their bosses, because there was a real problem, provoked by the impound lot.
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1911fan
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:41 pm |
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Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2005 10:18 pm Posts: 1689 Location: 35 W and Hiway 10
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The impound lot is under the Department of Public Works, A former Director of that Department used to take public relations and an understand that people who show up there are already pissed off and had training in diffusing tension, customer relations etc in place, his replacement, A Rybak appointee, cut all that as wasted and ineffectual, which has led to a sharp increase in incidents down there.
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