Ordered my SmartCarry Holster.
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squib_joe
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:01 pm |
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No matter how well it works, I just couldn't bring myself to use something called "Thunderwear".
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Srigs
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 4:34 pm |
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squib_joe wrote: No matter how well it works, I just couldn't bring myself to use something called "Thunderwear".
The good news is Smartcarry is designed different than Thunderwear. I'm being 'Smart'.
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Tman
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 8:37 am |
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I have had a SmartCarry for years and would like to point out a problem I have with this holster. I have a couple of small kids who want to climb in my lap. When I am sitting down and they walk up to between my legs, the muzzle of the gun is pointed at their head. This obviously is not acceptable. I do use the holster but not a lot.
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Andrew Rothman
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 10:54 am |
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Tman wrote: I have had a SmartCarry for years and would like to point out a problem I have with this holster. I have a couple of small kids who want to climb in my lap. When I am sitting down and they walk up to between my legs, the muzzle of the gun is pointed at their head. This obviously is not acceptable. I do use the holster but not a lot.
By that logic, no one should ever wear a shoulder holster, because people walk behind them.
The rule about not pointing guns at people does not apply when the gun is encased in an appropriate case or holster.
With the gun in your pants, in a holster that fully covers the trigger guard, and with no hands on the gun at all, it is not "pointed" in any real sense.
_________________ * NRA, UT, MADFI certified Minnesota Permit to Carry instructor, and one of 66,513 law-abiding permit holders. Read my blog.
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Tman
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 2:27 pm |
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On one hand if I thought the gun was unsafe in the holster, I would not be sticking it down my pants. On the other hand there are two layers of denim between my kid’s forehead and the muzzle of a loaded Glock.
The rationale is sound for a holstered gun, but I just cannot call it safe.
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Andrew Rothman
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 2:35 pm |
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Tman wrote: On one hand if I thought the gun was unsafe in the holster, I would not be sticking it down my pants. On the other hand there are two layers of denim between my kid’s forehead and the muzzle of a loaded Glock.
The rationale is sound for a holstered gun, but I just cannot call it safe.
By all means, let your feelings be your guide, if you wish. Just be aware that your only basis for concern is feelings alone, not reality.
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Last edited by Andrew Rothman on Wed May 03, 2006 3:37 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Dorian
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 3:08 pm |
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Andrew +1
But take it the rest of the way.
By this logic lets say I am wearing a strong side hip holster & my child grabs my leg the child is in danger at there is nothing between the child & the gun at all.
Most of the holsters I have seen have the tip open, & even if I have one of the few that do have a closed tip, Gasp there is only 1 layer of leather between the gun & the child.
Now try an IWB all the same but you get to add one layer of fabric between the child & the gun.
I also find it doubtful that no one ever goes above the ground floor while wearing one there by pointing the weapon at anyone below them in where ever they are.
This whole line just keeps coming up again & again the gun is safe, or it is not safe. Make up you mind, If you don’t feel safe with the gun, then get rid of it & get one you do feel safe with.
Quote: With no hands on the gun at all, it is not "pointed" in any real sense
Dorian
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Srigs
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 5:49 pm |
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Interesting discussion.
I have been wearing it on and off for @ 2 weeks and for summer carry with shorts or dress pants this is great. It is very comfortable and very easy to wear around the house where nomally you would need pants and a belt to hold the gun. With this holster no outside support is required.
All in all it is a winner! It adds to the options I have for carring a larger handgun then I would normally carry via IWB, OWB or pocket holster with and no extra cover required.
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"If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking" - George S. Patton
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goalie
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 6:22 pm |
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I would never carry a Glock in a smartcarry style holster without one of those push-away trigger-block safety devices, and I would never carry a Glock with a push-away trigger-block safety device for self-defense.
There are much safer choices for carry than the Glock platform if one is going to carry in a smartcarry/thunderwear style holster. And that is not Glock bashing, I have a few, carry one a lot, and love them. I just think that it would be unsafe to draw from inside my pants with the light trigger pull.
YMMV.
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Tman
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 7:32 am |
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In all fairness I do not believe that SmartCarry is unsafe. Yes, with a handgun on my hip there are still times when it is pointed at my kids. With a SmartCarry the gun is in a location that points at little ones allot. This is a mindset thing I know, but I would assume that many people would be nervous if they are wearing a SmartCarry and a child came up, and laid there head on the muzzle of a pistol. If you have kids think about it, and if you do not, get back to me when you do.
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Andrew Rothman
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 8:52 am |
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Tman wrote: This is a mindset thing I know, but I would assume that many people would be nervous if they are wearing a SmartCarry and a child came up, and laid there head on the muzzle of a pistol. The uninformed mught feel nervouse, but that nervousness has nothing to do with danger or rationality. We bash the antis for acting on emotion and not fact; I prefer not to be like them. Quote: If you have kids think about it, and if you do not, get back to me when you do.
My kids are two and four. I've thought about it a lot. I've concluded that the fact is that hostered pistols don't "go off."
My actual safety concerns with the SmartCarry are twofold:
1) If they come running at me quickly, they could bash their little noses on a steel slide covered with a few layers of demin. Ouch!
2) They may grow up thinking that men can't be injured in that area. (Little kids love to crawl and jump on Daddy -- the SmartCarry has protected me from injury innumerable times!)
_________________ * NRA, UT, MADFI certified Minnesota Permit to Carry instructor, and one of 66,513 law-abiding permit holders. Read my blog.
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Tman
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 9:31 am |
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Dude man, you don’t have to call me names, being so emotional I might start crying. I am informed and I do not know how I gave you the impression that I wasn’t. I stated that I believe the gun to be safe.
Obviously it is my emotions on this one, can’t stop it. Maybe I will change my mind after a few groin injuries.
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Andrew Rothman
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 9:35 am |
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Tman wrote: Dude man, you don’t have to call me names, being so emotional I might start crying. Jeez, I'm sorry! Group hug? Quote: Obviously it is my emotions on this one, can’t stop it. Maybe I will change my mind after a few groin injuries.
They say that pain is a powerful teacher.
_________________ * NRA, UT, MADFI certified Minnesota Permit to Carry instructor, and one of 66,513 law-abiding permit holders. Read my blog.
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Old Dude
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 9:48 am |
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durbin6
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 10:04 am |
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