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Post subject: SWC's in a auto? Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:49 pm |
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Got ahold of 500 175gr SWC cast lead bullets in .40. Thinking of loading them up for a Beretta 96 and my CZ-40P. Anyone have any previous experience with this kind of combo? I mostly worry about the bullet getting hung up on the feed ramp... how likely do you think this might be?
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mobocracy
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 9:48 am |
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I've loaded several hundred 185gr jacketed SWCs for .45ACP without any feed problems. Most of the .40/10mm bullet styles are truncated cone-type bullets and it's hard to see the more tapered nose of the SWC style impacting feed a whole lot.
Midway has several SWC style bullets in .40/10mm with 4 and 5 star ratings.
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DeanC
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:10 am |
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Just don't use 'em in a Glock or an HK.
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mobocracy
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:12 am |
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DeanC wrote: Just don't use 'em in a Glock or an HK.
Because of the factory barrels' hexagonal rifling or for feed reasons?
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DeanC
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:15 am |
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mobocracy wrote: Because of the factory barrels' hexagonal rifling
'Choo got it mano.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:02 pm |
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DeanC wrote: mobocracy wrote: Because of the factory barrels' hexagonal rifling 'Choo got it mano.
I wouldn't shoot reloads in a factory Glock barrel anyway. Way too little 6 o'clock case head support. I got a KKM barrel for mine.
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DeanC
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 1:46 pm |
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mobocracy wrote: Because of the factory barrels' hexagonal rifling
'Choo got it mano.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:03 pm |
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That's the bullet I cast for my XD-40 for practice ammo.
No problems at feeding.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 10:00 pm |
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Cool, guys, thanks. Neither pistol has polygonal rifling, so, I'm OK there. I'll load up a few, and see for myself.
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 2:59 pm |
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DeanC wrote: mobocracy wrote: Because of the factory barrels' hexagonal rifling 'Choo got it mano.
Dean,
I don't know about anyone elses HK, but my P7 has almost 150K through it, and I would say the two thirds of them were cast lead of various ogive profiles. The only thing that needs to be done is, pay attention to cleaning the beast, especially the gas retard system.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:56 am |
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I've stopped using SWC bullets in my Kimber ProCarry. The feed ramp is aluminum alloy, being part of the frame, and gets beat up by the shoulder of the bullets. Round-nose only for me these days.
jb
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mobocracy
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:51 pm |
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JonnyB wrote: I've stopped using SWC bullets in my Kimber ProCarry. The feed ramp is aluminum alloy, being part of the frame, and gets beat up by the shoulder of the bullets. Round-nose only for me these days.
jb
You would think that the alloy used for the frame would be such that it would be harder than the copper jacketing used on bullets.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:57 pm |
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Constant battering may not be so good for it. The alloy is harder - but the bullets have the frame slightly outnumbered.
Shucking a round out of the mag and shoving it into the chamber is a sort of violent act....
Lots of stuff happens there really fast.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:24 pm |
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JonnyB wrote: I've stopped using SWC bullets in my Kimber ProCarry. The feed ramp is aluminum alloy, being part of the frame, and gets beat up by the shoulder of the bullets. Round-nose only for me these days.
jb
Are you sure that it isn't the followers in the magazine doing the battering?
I have read in a couple of forums that the metal followers, especially the split tongue followers that are in alot of the 8 round magazines causing damage to the feed area of an alloy frame 1911.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:25 pm |
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How is that possible - there is nothing from the mag that would touch the feed ramp - whats in the mag stays in the mag.....
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