VA and the wrong answers to questions
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Hunter7227
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Post subject: VA and the wrong answers to questions Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:03 pm |
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I just received this e-mail and I am wondering if there is any truth to it at all. Snopes has no info says it's under investigation, but that posting was from June -
"I had a doctors appointment at the local VA clinic yesterday and found something very interesting I would like to pass along.. While going through triage before seeing the doctor, I was asked at the end of the exam, three questions.
(1. Did I feel stressed?) (2. Did I feel threatened?) (3. Did I feel like doing harm to someone?) The nurse then informed me, if I had answered yes to any of the questions, I would have lost my concealed carry permit as it would have gone into my medical records and the VA would have reported it to Homeland Security.
I am a Viet Nam vet and 15 year cc permit holder. Looks like they are going after us vets." Be forewarned and be aware. The Obama administration has gone on record as considering veterans and gun owners as potential terrorists. If you are a veteran, you've been warned. If you know veterans, please pass this on to them.
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Nords
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Post subject: Re: VA and the wrong answers to questions Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:19 pm |
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J.C. Garand
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Post subject: Re: VA and the wrong answers to questions Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:27 pm |
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Joined: Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:38 pm Posts: 21 Location: Mora, MN
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If a screening nurse at the VA were to tell me I would lose my permit to carry because I answered their questions wrong, I would have to investigate how they knew. I never tell the VA or other health care, it's none of their business.
_________________ "A 9mm 1911 is like a 7.62mm Garand. It works but it's just not right." Gregg
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boomingmetropolis
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Post subject: Re: VA and the wrong answers to questions Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:15 am |
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My experiences with the VA have been generally positive. However, occasionally I have had to remind them that "I" am the patient and "I'LL" let them know what test, forms, etc I'll tolerate and which I won't. And for those few individuals there (very few) who still don't get the message, a quick wave of the hand and a hearty 'you're dismissed!' always does the trick!
_________________ To expect bad men not to do wrong is madness, for he who expects this desires an impossiblity. But to allow men to behave so to others and expect them not to do thee any wrong is irrational and tyranical. Marcus Aurelius
I won't mind if you call me a racist. And I'm sure YOU won't mind if I call you a target of opportunity.
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gyrfalcon
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Post subject: Re: VA and the wrong answers to questions Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:18 am |
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Hunter7227 wrote: I just received this e-mail and I am wondering if there is any truth to it at all. The V.A. and other hospitals do ask general questions like this on their intake forms. You could answer yes to all of these questions, and all that would happen initially is that a doctor or physiologist would investigate the matter. It's very true that your concealed carry permit could be revoked if you have made a threat against someone else. Medical professionals have a duty to warn or protect third parties.
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In a big country dreams stay with you, like a lover's voice fires the mountainside. Stay alive.
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kecker
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Post subject: Re: VA and the wrong answers to questions Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:30 pm |
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I believe this one was already tackled in the Strategy area. I think the general conclusion was that this was not actually true, pending further evidence.
_________________ http://www.eckernet.com My mind is like a steel trap - rusty and illegal in 37 states.
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kecker
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Post subject: Re: VA and the wrong answers to questions Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:35 pm |
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gyrfalcon wrote: Hunter7227 wrote: I just received this e-mail and I am wondering if there is any truth to it at all. The V.A. and other hospitals do ask general questions like this on their intake forms. You could answer yes to all of these questions, and all that would happen initially is that a doctor or physiologist would investigate the matter. It's very true that your concealed carry permit could be revoked if you have made a threat against someone else. Medical professionals have a duty to warn or protect third parties. Actually HIPPA prevents them from divulging any patient info without that patients written consent. And that's enforced even for the government, subject to heavy penalties. Or so smarter people than me have told me.
_________________ http://www.eckernet.com My mind is like a steel trap - rusty and illegal in 37 states.
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gyrfalcon
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Post subject: Re: VA and the wrong answers to questions Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:02 pm |
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In a big country dreams stay with you, like a lover's voice fires the mountainside. Stay alive.
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MostlyHarmless
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Post subject: Re: VA and the wrong answers to questions Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:04 pm |
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The rule I generally follow is that I do not disclose information that is not medically relevant. I prefer to run my life myself and when I visit a medical professional it is to seek assistance with medical matters, not "life management."
The doctor is not a priest and the clinic is not a confessional.
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