Church / School - do I have to get a permission slip
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rthib
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Post subject: Church / School - do I have to get a permission slip Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:31 pm |
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So our Church also has a School. The Sanctuary is also used as the gymnasium for the School.
From my understanding of Subd. 1d. I need to get a permission slip from the principal if I want to carry to church.
I guess the question is, has there been any cases to decide if something is a church building or a school building when dual use.
To be clear, this is not a church meeting at a school, but a Church and School built together that uses one facility for both. Building is Called X Church and School. The Church use is not Temporary as the sounds system, cross and projection are permanent to the facility and are only used for Church Services. However the basketball hoops on the sides are also permanent and used by the school.
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Andrew Rothman
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Post subject: Re: Church / School - do I have to get a permission slip Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:27 am |
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joelr
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Post subject: Re: Church / School - do I have to get a permission slip Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:03 am |
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I think it's preposterously risky to assume that any actual ambiguities in the law will redound to your benefit; seems to me that getting the written permission is just this side of necessary, if you're going to carry there.
_________________ Just a guy.
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Q_Continuum
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Post subject: Re: Church / School - do I have to get a permission slip Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:52 pm |
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Joined: Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:43 am Posts: 371 Location: Anoka, MN
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Just thinking on this topic, if the principal seems to loathe giving you permission, could he perhaps give you written permission, but only A) during certain times or B) when certain conditions are met? (The church event(s) are/is running, and school is not 'in session') - just make sure it will cover anytime you'd be there, if you're ever there for more than the Sunday services.
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tullibee
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Post subject: Re: Church / School - do I have to get a permission slip Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 1:17 pm |
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or if you think the church powers that be would be more receptable than the principal, maybe approach them to ask the principal on your behalf...
_________________ what part of "shall not be infringed" is so hard to understand by so many people?
gun control means hitting where you aim!
Last edited by tullibee on Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:06 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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kecker
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Post subject: Re: Church / School - do I have to get a permission slip Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:01 pm |
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rthib, I appoint you the poster child for demonstrating how even well-written laws can still come up short.
_________________ http://www.eckernet.com My mind is like a steel trap - rusty and illegal in 37 states.
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rthib
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Post subject: Re: Church / School - do I have to get a permission slip Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:00 pm |
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kecker wrote: rthib, I appoint you the poster child for demonstrating how even well-written laws can still come up short. Yep, This fail the "Law abiding person doing rational behavior and it is still illegal test." As a side note, here is what the Synod has to say about gun control: Q: What does the Bible say about gun control? A: Nothing. It talks often about weapons being used to oppose evil. It condemns harming other people unjustly. It does not deal with the issue of whether restricting ownership of weapons will prevent evil conduct.
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old guy
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Post subject: Re: Church / School - do I have to get a permission slip Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:19 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:51 am Posts: 61 Location: NE mpls MN
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Jesus said in Luke chapter 22 verse 36 ( if you don't have a sword go sell your coat and buy a sword). There are other scriptures indicating you should defend your house.
John
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RobD
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Post subject: Re: Church / School - do I have to get a permission slip Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:46 am |
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Joined: Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:41 pm Posts: 234 Location: Apple-Mount Farming-Ville
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rthib wrote: Q: What does the Bible say about gun control? A: Nothing. It talks often about weapons being used to oppose evil. It condemns harming other people unjustly. It does not deal with the issue of whether restricting ownership of weapons will prevent evil conduct. Here is an excellent article about being a Christian and carrying, with some existential scripture. http://reformed-theology.org/html/issue ... am_pro.htm
_________________ NRA Instructor (BP, PPITH, PPOTH, Shothell + Metallic Reloading, RSO) Certified Glock Armorer
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