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KTV
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Post subject: St. Paul PD - ammunition Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:33 am |
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(Not quite sure where to post this, so...)
I just received a copy of the Glock 09 annual. In it there is an
article on St. Paul PD. In the article it states that St. Paul PD
is now issuing Federal Tactical HST (180gr) to its officers.
Can anyone confirm that?
Any updates as far as what ammunition the departments in the
metro area are issuing/recommending to their officers?
TIA
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ecrist
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:37 am |
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Ramsey County is still using Federal Hydra-shock, .40 S&W
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gyrfalcon
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Post subject: Re: St. Paul PD - ammunition Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:51 pm |
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KTV wrote: .... St. Paul PD is now issuing Federal Tactical HST (180gr) to its officers. Can anyone confirm that?
I'm just wondering why you care? Hydrashocks are based on dated technology and generally more expensive than new, better performing HST type ammo.
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1911fan
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:54 pm |
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Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2005 10:18 pm Posts: 1689 Location: 35 W and Hiway 10
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HST and gold dot brass both show up from the Ramsey Cty range
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KTV
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Post subject: Re: St. Paul PD - ammunition Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:16 pm |
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gyrfalcon wrote: KTV wrote: .... St. Paul PD is now issuing Federal Tactical HST (180gr) to its officers. Can anyone confirm that? I'm just wondering why you care? Hydrashocks are based on dated technology and generally more expensive than new, better performing HST type ammo.
I, didn't say anything about hydrashocks. I asked about what St. Paul
PD is using because in more than one place, from more than one
"expert/instructor", I've heard and read the recommendation that you
should use the same self defense ammunition as your local police
department.
The idea being if you are prosecuted for using your weapon, using the
same ammo as the local PD would make it more difficult for a
prosecuting attorney to use your choice of ammo against you and paint
you as a gun nut.
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chunkstyle
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Post subject: Re: St. Paul PD - ammunition Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:19 pm |
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KTV wrote: gyrfalcon wrote: KTV wrote: .... St. Paul PD is now issuing Federal Tactical HST (180gr) to its officers. Can anyone confirm that? I'm just wondering why you care? Hydrashocks are based on dated technology and generally more expensive than new, better performing HST type ammo. I, didn't say anything about hydrashocks. I asked about what St. Paul PD is using because in more than one place, from more than one "expert/instructor", I've heard and read the recommendation that you should use the same self defense ammunition as your local police department. The idea being if you are prosecuted for using your weapon, using the same ammo as the local PD would make it more difficult for a prosecuting attorney to use your choice of ammo against you and paint you as a gun nut.
Baloney. Specifically use cop ammo, and the prosecutor could just as well try to paint you as a "wanna-be" cop. Use what's meant for your gun. Use factory ammo. If you fire your gun because you needed to, ammo choice won't make any difference. If you fire it when you don't need to, ammo choice won't help you.
But cops do use quality ammo in general, and you should too.
_________________ "The right of citizens to bear arms is just one more guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible." - Vice President Hubert H. Humphrey, 1960
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Last edited by chunkstyle on Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:44 am, edited 1 time in total.
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1911fan
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:36 pm |
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Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2005 10:18 pm Posts: 1689 Location: 35 W and Hiway 10
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well if black talons, HSTs or gold dots are made for your gun, then use them. Using a local PD for ammo suggestions is not a bad idea. Its a commonly quoted recommendation.
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gyrfalcon
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:20 am |
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1911fan wrote: well if black talons, HSTs or gold dots are made for your gun, then use them. Using a local PD for ammo suggestions is not a bad idea. Its a commonly quoted recommendation.
Of course it's would be an interesting court case if you happened to shoot someone with a .50 Cal Raufoss Mk211 round. They're legal to own although expensive since they contain less than 1/4th an ounce of explosive.
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Greg
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:27 am |
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gyrfalcon wrote: 1911fan wrote: well if black talons, HSTs or gold dots are made for your gun, then use them. Using a local PD for ammo suggestions is not a bad idea. Its a commonly quoted recommendation. Of course it's would be an interesting court case if you happened to shoot someone with a .50 Cal Raufoss Mk211 round. They're legal to own although expensive since they contain less than 1/4th an ounce of explosive.
Hard to conceal and damn heavy to carry...but FUN!
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